This prevents the sword from falling when the soldier is running. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. Your link has been automatically embedded. Hi there what would you expect to pay for a aluminium handled no 3 sword with some blade staining/surface rust and a dentless scabbard with some surface rust? I'm not going to go into details. You may severely injure yourself and/or damage the sword. The Type 95 NCO sword is similar in appearance to officers Type 94 and Type 98 Shin-gunt military swords, but is made of lower quality materials, most notably its hilt, which is made from metal and the scabbard was similar to that of the Type 32 with a prominent drag. The type and color of the rust is used to help date and to authenticate the blade. Where should I look for records or production date/serial number guides? You cannot paste images directly. This is due to the method Sponsored. The one thing that always sets off alarms on these is the tsuka almost looks blurred or sandblasted, the real NCO's are usually crisp and bold and well defined. One, they aren't in the correct range. or old wood sticks. NOTE: The following suggestions for determining whether a Japanese sword is old or new (WW II era or later) are only general guides. no interest to Japanese sword collectors. - it will reduce its value by at least 50 percent!! By law, Japanese citizens were forbidden to own swords. 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WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword, sold In good condition and with matching sword vs scabbard serial numbers, this is a 100% guaranteed authentic WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword / katana. Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. WW2. You cannot re-wrap the hilt with the silk cord that was removed. If there are serial numbers stamped in the blade, it is a machine made I have been searching for years for a good reproduction of a Japanese Shin-gunto NCO sword. All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. I am not sure why the serial numbers are covered? Powered by Invision Community, Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues, Military Swords of Imperial Japan - Ohmura San, Nihonto-Japanese Swords as Art - John Eliyas, The Token Society of GB - Scotland Branch, Nanka Token Kai - Southern California Japanese Sword Society, Japanese Sword Society of the United States, The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Sword Culture (NBSK), The Japanese Sword Society of the United States, Nederlandse Tken Vereniging - Netherlands, San Francisco Nipponto Society *caution, http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=277, http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=276&zenid=qot0424cgushvekob07rapkkq2. Greetings. They don't need to read the NMB daily to see if there are any tips. Matching serial numbers 31123. A lot of people buy it and some weeks later you can buy it as a original NCO Sword.. They just copy the real swords they import.Just comment what you like, you are not changing anything. Rarely is a high quality blade found in sword cane mounts; however, some of This looks good from a distance, but up close the details reveal the fake. There are genuine collectors throughout China too. The hilt is complete with a functional metal locking spring tab that secures the blade to the scabbard. Traditionally this function is assigned to the Habaki (blade collar). I agree, once they start nailing the kissaki and proper proportions it will be a minefield out there. Rare 1st Type with matching numbers "4428" on blade and scabbard. The overall swords are getting better. The saya/scabbard number should be on the top of the scabbard, where it's covered when the sword is sheathed. Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. All NCO swords were numbered. Neil. That is an important part of identifying the authenticity of an NCO. A great early war example at a low price; yours for ? Make the gap between the arsenal marks less! Description. It's a huge tell tale. Writing about whatever interests me, and maybe you. Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues, Military Swords of Imperial Japan - Ohmura San, Nihonto-Japanese Swords as Art - John Eliyas, The Token Society of GB - Scotland Branch, Nanka Token Kai - Southern California Japanese Sword Society, Japanese Sword Society of the United States, The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Sword Culture (NBSK), The Japanese Sword Society of the United States, Nederlandse Tken Vereniging - Netherlands, San Francisco Nipponto Society *caution. An elite marksman. PRE WWII JAPANESE TYPE 30 ARISAKA BAYO-TOKYO ARSENAL-SERIAL NUMBER ON TANG-EARLY. Bruce has politely written exactly what my reply would have been. There are so many. I agree and have never been able to put it into words like you just did. like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. Most sword canes were produced in the late 19th Century - early 20th Century. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. The great majority of these swords are made of carved bone, not ivory. Guaranteed authentic: A WW2 Type 95 Japanese army NCO's sword, Kokura arsenal stamp. Not just Gunto but Napoleonic ,K98 bayonets you name itSo look out in the future! This service used example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana, with aluminum handle construction and machine made fullered blade. Some older (Shinshinto) to another sword / scabbard. It is terrible. . Lets hope the guys that make the fakes arent reading all this and learning what to improve. Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" ( - shin guntou) style. Something went wrong. So if they put their mind to it, an NCO sword should be no problem to reproduce. from China About 80,000 of the Ko sabers were produced between 1899 and 1936, with the lowest reported serial number being 1175 and the highest one being 83390. tourist momentos that are commonly thought to be some special type of Japanese sword. Not just Gunto but Napoleonic ,K98 bayonets you name itSo look out in the future ! This is a great and guaranteed genuine Japanese NCO's Type 95 sword that was carried by a career soldier. Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. Grain does not determine age. The scabbard shows some surface corrosion, but still retails about 50% of its army green paint. Have a 3rd pattern nco Tokyo First Army Arsenal inspection mark "To" stamping serial number 141882 and wanted to know a possible year dating on that number range cheers Phil Quote Name: Stu W Posted March 7, 2014 Hi Phil, All Rights Reserved. will show tiny dots/specks (nioi and/or nie) along and between the border of the hamon and the rest of the blade. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. WW II era swords have been put into shirasaya or This thread is quite old. It now takes an expert to tell the difference between a Chinese $25 copy ROLEX and the real deal, right down to the automatic movement. 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Cheers to Dan for bringing it to my attention. This is a blatant fake, which you should keep well away from. Akunin One thing I also saw while researching is the nightmare of the number of fakes out there. If the tsuka can be dismanteld from sword with out removing the sarute and barrel, its a fake! Also many Chinese military swords are confused with Japanese swords. That's why I addressed here. http://ohmura-study.net/790.html. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. Swords of this type were made in all sizes, from tanto to katana or tachi. Hi all,while I'm sure our members know how to pick a fake NCO, I wanted to share these.http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=277http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=276&zenid=qot0424cgushvekob07rapkkq2The really disappointing part is that I informed the site owner about the first sword and provided a comprehensive list of indicators the sword is not genuine. If the blade is aluminum, the sword is not The serial number looks very short by the size of the painted over area - maybe too short. Your previous content has been restored. . By the way, the MILLIONS of copy ROLEXS have not slowed the demand for the real thing, or stopped prices rising. doing. The fuller on a real T95 goes almost to the habaki (collar), the brass part around the blade just above the tsuba/guard. Machine made blade is good condition. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. Real swords only had flat-head screws. By law, Japanese citizens were forbidden to own swords. There are also numerous reproduction and fake Japanese swords on Usually the copies are considerably lower, making it very obvious. The biggest giveaway are the stamps. Most sword canes were produced in the late 19th Century - early 20th Century. I agree. The tsuba is the plain style utilized on NCO swords. Posted October 27, 2017 Scabbard in very nice condition. Agree with others had to study it for a bit, since it is not an obvious reproduction - but at the end of the day, it has issues! This claims to be made by Suya Shoten, but their standards and quality control were much higher than this. For definitions of terms, check the visual glossary page. Then the horror is the "Ko" stamp! once told the facts they simply try and sell it on at the same price they paid, to avoid a loss of money instead of learning from there mistakes. There are old sword blades which have no visible grain (muji hada); however, the presence of grain does The blade must be examined in its entirety and not judged solely Amounts shown in italicized text are for items listed in currency other than U.S. dollars and are approximate conversions to U.S. dollars based upon Bloomberg's conversion rates. Celebrating the Past, Present and Future of Navy Cryptology, Official site for National Guard marksmanship training & competitions. Something went wrong. This is pure fiction. Paste as plain text instead, During the WW II era, many machine made blades were signed simply as a way of giving more prestige to the sword even though it was machine made. Short fuller. It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. Guaranteed authentic: A WW2 Type 95 Japanese army Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" (shin guntou) style. This was a tough one! This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. The serial number should be near the bottom of the . I searched into the rest of the Japanese items on the site. I ask you to help in determining the authenticity of the sword. by differential tempering of the blade. Never use force to remove the handle.) I'm reposting the pictures of the fake pattern 5 that Stegel provided in the wooden handled topic just to have them all together. Authorized for production in 1935, the Type 95, commonly referred to as the NCO sword was all-machine made unlike the more expensive and higher-quality Officers sword. Stick to reliable sources more Han ever if you want to avoid getting burnt ! Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. WAY too big, wrong place and the square imprint around it. This would fool most entry level guys. "Ninja swords" are a Hollywood fiction. can be. There are numerous varieties of items made in the 20th Century as This sword I shared with Steve (this thread) is a very good knowledge test - the goofy belt hanger (Bruce references) made me discount the sword immediately, but on closer look (my opinion) the stamps are a bit better than the other, cheaper fakes out there on the market. The reverse is also not true - if a sword is not signed does not mean it is machine made. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Etchings. I have NO idea what that belt hanger is supposed to be. Mauser 99 in post 15 look to the scabbard throat and you should see the brass sleeve visible.Also with the MountCastle example the paint still looked fresh in the overly large fake serial number on the throat..Shame really because the one that is on the site with a painted hilt but marked sold is a real one,and nice too ! Blade is 26.25 inches long, with an overall length of 36.25 inches. the tsuka casting made me look 3 times, but just look at the stamps on the nakago, Ok, a little later I will add a photo of the unpainted serial numbers. Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. Pasted as rich text. / scabbard has quite a bit of its original war time browning and I was so stupid to have some and sold it - for better swords. Newer swords will have a grey, metallic tang perhaps with a little red rust. Look at the bohi at the kissaki and the arsenal marks are terrible! It's also really interesting that it looks like the original serial numbers on the scabbard and blade matched before they were ground. I completely agree with Bill here. These are all machine made and are not classified as "Nihonto". original copper coloured paint and is in very good shape. There are a few small nicks on the edge of the blade, but they are hard to photograph. The Mechanix of Auto, Aviation, Militarypert near anything I feel relates to mechanical things, places, events or whatever I happen to like. Something changed in the last 6 months. Sorry for the bad news. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. 20062021 Nihonto Message Board of forging the blade using multiple folds,etc. Seppa intergrated in the fuchi is a no go here. Learn how your comment data is processed. Opens in a new window or tab. There's a technical term for it in Australia. The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo Here is another example that's not too bad, but the bohi, stamps (these are most obvious parts) and other details are off. They are getting better with the Kokura cannonballs, but this one - the lines are to thin, the balls too big. Carved bone and carved ivory sword mountings almost always have untempered, soft steel blades. Older swords will have more rusted tangs, ranging from brown to smooth deep black rust for the oldest swords. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. is signed, that it must be hand made. the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords National Guard Marksmanship Training Center. The 26 3/8 inch nagasa (cutting edge section) blade is in very When ANY doubt exists as to the authenticity or The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords and scabbards were frequently . Your email address will not be published. The serial number, 31278, and arsenal stamp are marked above the bohi (fuller). blade - most likely a WW II NCO sword. The blades are very straight and thin and often have significant flaws. kink one side but is overall very good for its age; the locking IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. June 23, 2016. like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. Most swords do not have matching . Exploring History with the National Archives Special Media Division. & valuations. Please consider starting a new thread rather than reviving this one, unless your post is really relevant and adds to the topic.. Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. They are unfortunately getting pretty good now. Brass hilt. IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. Today I checked, just in case the sword was pulled from sale, and lo and behold there is a 'rare copper handle' now listed, clearly of the same manufacturer. A real shooter with aim. Vice versa, antique blades are occassionally found Japanese WWII Type 95 NCO Sword. Please see our. The aluminium hilt / tsuka has good amounts of its Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a. Sure, there's lots of other details like proof marks to look for, but these 5 things are just glaringly obvious and easy to see in pictures, and one or more seems to be on every single repro sword out there, so they're quick and easy ways to ID fakes. Check the military sword page for examples of WW II era Dan. Otherwise that is dangerously good to newcomers or unwary collectors looking for that ebay goldmine. This is a fake for at least two obvious reasons : 1- copper hilted type 95's, or 1st generation T-95's are very scarce and have only 4 digits serial numbers (around 6000 produced). Carlos,I remember your sword ( if it's the same one you first put on the site ) and it's 100%If you look at the sword by Shamsy in post no9 look at the seppa and how poorly it fits and how new it looks ! The condition of this sword is very good, with only some light surface staining.
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