3.75/4 3.75 / 4 (0 reviews) Staff Knowledge & Friendliness 4/4. Forgotten account? 1 Damer, 1989, (passim), Life in theWine Alley Around 1963 we moved to Arden where I went St Louise Primary School. It was great reading all the stories. It was only a community concerted campaign, (which included a long rent strike) waged by the various groups of residents, that the Glasgow District Council agreed to re-house all of the remaining tenants. Govan was the site of a ford and later a ferry which linked the area with Partick for seasonal cattle drovers. I was searching for Harry Lauder pictures and came across this interesting site. Our parents and our brother were also married there, and we were all Christened there as well. Ah! Govan was thriving in those days. The two men, working for up to 18 hours at a time, had to be smuggled out before dawn each day. The plan was to video and record any deals as they happened - a tricky and dangerous proposition. Know your enemy. The main point of the Presentation was that, in an area which had lost 80% of its population (between 1951 and 2001), the re-zoning of demolished housing areas for warehousing and offices meant that there was less chance of people coming back into the area to live, as houses were needed in these areas and not anonymous commercial barns and offices. images & design by The Poverty Alliance Glasgow Braendam Link 2005, Sitting here on our computers at the end of 2022, The Glasgow User Manual An Almanac and Peoples Guide To the city, Information obesity (Relating to activism), Positive Thinking and the Positive Thinking Industry, Triangulation ( Try things from a different angle), BRENDAN McLAUGHLIN lifes a Bowl o Cherries, ADAM McNAUGHTON JIM McLEAN The Glasgow I Used To Know, ALEXANDER RODGER (1784-1846) Sawney, Now The Kings Come, JOHN TAYLOR CALDWELL The Battle For The Green, RUTHERGLEN DRAMA GROUP Caterpillar Talking Blues, PHIL McPHEE Hutchie E- A Monument to Corruption, Stupidity and Bad Planning, JOHN McGARRIGLE Write nice thingslast night, PETER ARNOTT & PETER MULLAN Beechgrove Garden Festival, ROBERT LYNN Not a Life Story, Just a Leaf From It, R. D. LAING from Wisdom, Madness and Folly, ALEX CATHCART Nostalgically Speaking Imagination is Money. Pauline Belkadi: Thanks for the name of the shop 'Bobby's'. Born 1945, 28 Craigton Road two up in the hole in the wall, I went to Greenfield Primary remember headmaster name a Mr Hutchinson, a Miss Burnside, miss Blackstock. However, in 1989 the same area was one of the most crime-ridden and deprived in Scotland. who originated from the Helen Street area of Govan, but are now based further west at Shieldhall. I was pretty sad when I left Govan and leaving my family was devastating to me. Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. [9] It had also been parodied by the BBC Scotland television comedy series Rab C. Nesbitt, with Wine Alley and the wider Govan area the stated setting for the show, though episodes were seldom filmed there. I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. Forgotten account? First, this fosters connectedness seen in social capital and enhanced trust in government and in fellow citizens. 8/1. The newlyweds got engaged in April 2018 after dating for three years and were forced to delay their wedding last April due to the coronavirus pandemic. See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. Young Young Winey (Govan) (G51) (Moorpark) 'Republican Wine Alley' . James and Catherine moved to Govan from Ireland and lived on Victoria (Neptune) Street and Langlands Road. SC 020951 NGR Description Centred NS55416 65081. Elder park is a mess and all the railings have been taken out. Add your own memories or stories by clicking here. The man caught in the earlier operation with 50,000 of drugs in Helen Street was given six years. The origins of the Doomster Hill are a mystery. Strange thing is that we carried passengers on some days, these passengers had a dinner on board while we discharged the cargo with most never knowing what was happening. . The faults were caused mainly by a lack of insulation and waterproofing at the joints in the concrete panels, which made up the structure. [42] The ships were built by the following companies: Robert Napier & Company, Randolph Elder & Company, Dobbie Hedderwick & Co., Dobie & Company, Mackie & Thomson, Smith & Rodgers, London & Glasgow Engineering and Iron Shipbuilding Co. Ltd., William Beardmore & Company, John Elder & Company, Fairfield Shipbuilding & Eng. Best people you could meet. British Shipbuilders road to privatisation was not as swift, and the group was sold piece by piece throughout the course of the 1980s. Here in the alley, you will find tasting rooms such as Truth Teller Winery, Baer Winery, Ancestry Cellars, Adam's Bench and the office of Woodinville Wine Country. 11 a.m.-8 p.m. Monday . My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. sau. Loved going into Amy's Cafe after coming out of Mackays for my Easter outfits. We offer great benefits for wine merchants, hotels and restaurants offering your wines. Instead, it referred to the popularity of cheap and powerful tonic wines particularly with young people - the vast consumption of which would often lead to violence and disorder. Show More . I can remember having to use the toilet on the landing using a massive key to open the door. Somehow the government cannot understand that external improvements can only benefit any dilapidated area by not only improving its external image but also by giving the local residents a sense of Well-Being. I remember that when he told me that he had studied at university and that what he was now doing was his job I laughed at his education and his job. These were not cleared until well into the 1970s. Impressed by what they had done, the European Community allowed an application for major funds, which matched by the City Council (and oth adherents), to such an extent that another 36 blocks in the estate were rehabililitated in the same fashion as the prototype.8, At this point, some may ask, if the residents of such a community could do so mutch themselves, why is authority necessary for community planning? The church, situated at the west end of the village of Govan, and about 100 yards from the Clyde, was built in 1826, and is a plain structure containing 1096 sittings: the . So, at the age of 46 I started three years of studies with projects that involved Govan Initiative and Glasgow University until I was finally accepted as a full-time student at Glasgow. However, the local paper still remained hostile, hypocritical, and unhelpful about the whole idea. This is a 12th-century Latin source, but one believed to be based on much earlier materials; it records a place near Dumbarton Rock named Ouania. Lots of other good memories but also remember the terrible fires which took place. We lived in Southcroft St., when we got married. I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. I screamed blue murder, he wanted to pull my pants down, but no way I letting him do that to me. Govan has had several local newspapers over the years such as the Govan Chronicle and Govan Press published by the Cossar Family (1851-1983) and by John Maclean (20062014) which also served the communities of Kinning Park, Cardonald, Penilee and Hillington, and the Govan Post (19831988) published by Cook, Paton & Co. of Paisley, now part of Dunfermline Press. In 1973 SNP won a by-election with Margo MacDonald as their candidate. Jackson had only just taken charge of the CID at Govan, having left his post as head of Strathclyde Polices serious crime squad. Email: enquiries@gblink.org.uk , www.gblink.org.uk Without a home, mankind has no place. Above is a quote from a seasoned Timfrom the unfairly labelled Wine Alley (Moorpark) area, once of greater Govan, just off Broomloan Road. Almost went to St Anthony's primary. Pagini similare. I remember at one time there were thirteen of us staying in the house including the lassie across the street who came to stay for a night and more or less remained there for about five years. Marconi Electronic Systems and its Marconi Marine unit were sold to British Aerospace in 1999 to form BAE Systems. That suggested that the suspect was taking the van south to Manchester or Liverpool to pick up much larger drug consignments. On the 21/6/2005 the plans for the future of Govans Central area were publicly revealed showing that housing and concern for unemployment was high on its agenda. 9/1 Now offering wine & beer by the glass! 102m The Govan Shed . It would also mean long hours of up to 18 hours day in unpleasant conditions. My mother was born at 68 Harmony Row in 1924, when she was about 10 she was sent to Dand's Drapers on Langlands Road to buy thread for a neighbour and got her finger caught in the door which resulted in losing the tip of it which gave her years of pain, on a lighter note on the subway to hospital she had to pace up and down with pain which resulted in her leaving the subway with her pockets jingling. Community service. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council \"modernised\" it and tried to reintroduce the original name Moorepark but after 40 years of being the Wine Alley most people forgot about or even knew that the Wine Ally was originally called Moorepark and did not approve of the name Moorepark and continued to call it Wine Alley. I was born in 23 McGregor Street Teucharhill in 1962 and remember my mum waiting until the last minute and getting a lift to the polling station, promising to vote for whichever party candidate provided the transport (aye right) still though when the 70s arrived I would have voted for the blonde wummin shouting through a megaphone at the end of the street even though I'd no idea what she was on about or what party she represented, she was a bit of a belter called Margo MacDonald. pigella miraculous ladybug power. I now live in Scotstoun but attend same dentist at Water Row Govan! On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. A big gang of kids would all go to the pictures on Saturday afternoon and one kid would pay to get in and then would go round to the fire escape door and open it and let the rest of the kids in for free. Zabudli ste daje na prstup k tu? Our first daughter was born in 1962, and then when she was six months old, we went to Toronto, Canada. They also told police that the same man would rent out a larger car about once a month. My paternal grandfather was an engine keeper for the Phoenix Copper Works, and lived on Brighton Street. From Rushden we came back to Larbert, then to Lauder. I remember my mum and dad and telling me how Govan was full of works, tenements, shops and pubs and how it was a vibrant place, this was very different from 1970s Govan that I grew up in, instead it was like a town after the blitz, I remember large areas of spare ground where the tenements and shops once stood, I remember playing in the old derelict tenements and works and in the rubble of demolished tenements, in the old tenements in Orkney Street we pretended to pour pints in the old Albert Bar. 2 Markus, 1993, p. 148 A friend called Carol Slater. This was a very hard job physically where we would carry a wicker basket (full of ashes, etc.) They suggested that the hill may have been a 12th-century Norman motte. 11/2. Former. I considered that I did a real job and that what he did for a living was nonsense. However, the documents do not ask why so many people with poor health or low educational qualifications happen to be in the same areas in the first place! It occurs in the buyers market where access to housing is based on the ability to pay, and it also takes place in the council allocation system where the disadvantaged are lumped together in sink housing schemes. [11], By the 16th century, extensive coal mine workings had been developed around Craigton and Drumoyne. My Granny, Cassie Donaghey stayed at 9 Orkney Street, Govan where I went at weekends and for holidays (Yeah from Drumchapel). There, two local cops came up with the idea of using several of the houses to keep a 24-hour watch on the gang. Hullo! We stayed next door to the Mellon's in 31 Rathlin Street for a short time, I was friendly with your brother Paul. Finalists in the Intermediate Cup 1929-30, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moorepark,_Glasgow&oldid=1142353497, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 1 March 2023, at 23:16. Used go there for coffee and listen to juke box. Did the papers for Maggie Slimmins and the milk for the coop this paid for my first real bike from Andy McNeil's, before that I had a clenny model. Mother has an excellent memory and I am attempting to write down stories about; the old shops; events streets and everything. Wineally for Wine Producers We make your wines shine by having them served with matching dishes in restaurants or at home. I remember living in a single end tenement (1950's) at 77 Nethan Street and the excitement on a Saturday morning when the man delivered the coal in our bunker which was right next to our bed. We moved to Cardonald when I was very small but used to go back to Govan all the time and stay with my grannie at 711 Govan Road, above McLarens Newsagents. I have many happy memories of Govan. Then there was the shake the blanket with my older sisters and friends my turn wasn't coming fast enough so as usual I was whining so they gave me my turn and shake the blanket shake the blanket 1-2-3 they lifted me in the air and let the blanket go results bleeding nose and they all got a right telling off. I was born in the Southern General Hospital in 1958 and lived at 23 McGregor Street, Chookiehill [Teucharhill] as it was fondly called then. Thus, the major failing of any community planning is its inability to understand this relationship between the community and authority in detail and in an objective manner. It was regarded at the time as perhaps the worst slum in Britain, and the people who lived there were treated like vermin by the authorities whom we treated likewise. 3 Smith, 1999, p. 40-41 My Aunt Marg & Uncle Jack Johnstone had the paper shop on Govan Road. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. It was very hard during the war for our mother as our brother was three years older and our father was a shipyard worker, working nightshift. Ther were many menswear shops such as Jackson the Tailor and John Collier. Mum married and moved to Whiteinch as a child and I remember going across on the ferry to Govan, Anyone recall my mum? I also remember the candy apple man and rag man, I also remember at the top of Greenfield Street as a wee boy of 8 watching a horse drawn Beatties bread wagon relieving itself, what a flood lots of great memories. 2 I stayed in Govan in the early 60's first in a tenement at 118 Govan Road, we stayed in the top storey mum, dad, me, my sister, and baby brother. (was it Grant's????? Glasgow Green Flagstones at Jocelyn Square in front of the McLennan Arch inform us that this was the site of public executions in the city until 1865. I was born in 1952 and lived in Golspie St until I was 10 when we moved to Garthamlock. Replies. Besides, authority cannot work without community and vice versa so there has to be a coming together of both sides and a change of thinking by each about how and why things get done if both parties are to do the right thing. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Not Now. Drug and alcohol abuse was a widespread problem and unemployment stood at 30% - three times the national average. As for our childhood and growing up in Govan we would never change a thing, there was everything in Govan any child wanted and we never ever suffered from boredom after school, we were outside playing peever, rounders, climbing dykes, swimming at the pool and rolling our Easter eggs down the hill at Bellahouston Park. 124m Freshair Salon . Moreover, there will be no demolition or destruction of any part of Govans heritage on the contrary the important Iron Age site of Doomster Hill will be marked with grass, and not encroached upon by the new housing while a special corridor will link it with Govan Old Parish Church, which is one of the earliest Christian sites in Britain. I was wondering if anyone had any information on the McSherry family? As I recall they sold very trendy tops marketed as Trendy. The church of Govan was a prebend of Glasgow. In 1901 Govan was the 7th largest town in Scotland. Gran was Annie Murphy but her dad died when she was 4 and her mother remarried John Johnston and went on to have a huge number of children - and as we research the family, we keep finding more. Alley & Vine will be ready for outdoor and indoor dining once allowed, but until then, customers can order online or by phone for takeout and curbside pickup. For Margaret Gibson - I saw that you lived in Kintra Street until 1960 and wondered if you knew my grandmother Mary McGill/Johnston who lived at 110 Kintra Street in 1956. I can see from the various pieces of information I have obtained that the Leddy's lived in various places in Govan including 61 Victoria Street, 10 John Street, 76 White Street and 11 Logie Street. Sad to see Govan now but many happy memories. I was born Jan 6th 1951 and brought up in flat above Co-op in Helen Street at Govan Cross, I Went to Harmony Row and Hills Trust Primary schools before moving to Pollok when I was 10 .I have 4 brothers Dave, Bobby, Shuggie, all born in Govan ..and Alastair born in Pollok. I would like to hear from anybody who knew any of us up until 1981 when my mum and dad left Ibrox to move to Craigton. Someone took me to the Orkney Street Police Station. I can't remember what we wrote, but we were very busy. I remember the Neptune Street bakery was always flooded and full of cats but people would still queue up outside it. Get into Govan. 25 bus to the Gladstone Gospel Hall at the corner of Golspie St and Logie St. Very fond memories. "I like to be challenged and Govan did that every day.". Post moderation is undertaken full-time 9am-6pm on weekdays, and on a part-time basis outwith those hours. My cousin Pat and I were just reminiscing about memories of the Steamie - which I think I was dragged along to, to help Mrs. Mary Devlin, in about 1965? Drumoyne primary it was, a year after my big brother Robert started (about 53) then on to Govan High School, that was the one which caught fire when I was due to sit my O levels (no excuses). The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. 15 Saturday Home, 2005, p. 20 16Vindicated1, 2005, p. 1-2, Acknowledgements Co. Ltd., Alexander Stephens & Sons, J & G Thomson, Harland & Wolff and more. Pieces 'n Jam and a Bottle of Water climb on top of a Air Raid Shelter and have a picnic, Aye happy days and not a Tablet or Mobile phone in site. Skater Girl. They thanked him for the work they had done in cleaning up Wine Alley and bringing Burnsides two-year reign of terror to an end. No1seems2care. She got married in 1956 to my grandfather Robert. My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. 6 Markus, 1993, p. 163 Looking at Govan when it was a village, and film of how it grew into a town, we felt very proud of being born and raised in dear auld Govan. Somewhere along the Govan Road, there was a sweet shop with a train set that would go around all the big jars of sweets. Beforesentencing, judge Lord Caplan told Burnside: ''You have been a significant dealer in a dreadful trade and the courts have seen the havoc it causes among young persons. Interest. The county added to the description of these lands, the phrase: "but now by annexation in the County of Renfrew. contact the editor here. First of all, they invited local and international designers to attend a three day team design effort to come up with imaginative projects that would redress the problems they had in their 3-storey, concrete block houses.7, The group then lobbied the City Council, the Scottish Office and finally Westminster, until they were eventually given the go-ahead to revamp one of the old blocks of 6 houses into model they desired. Gary Faulds. Vine Alley Bistro 13 reviews Claimed Wine Bars, Wine Tasting Classes Edit Closed 4:00 PM - 9:00 PM Hours updated 2 months ago See hours See all 31 photos Write a review Add photo Location & Hours 114 Market St Gaithersburg, MD 20878 Get directions Edit business info You Might Also Consider Sponsored iRock Karaoke Lounge 141 We visited Govan in recent years and is not the same place anymore.