Speed is definitely a skill. As usual Tony tells it how it is with no sugar coating but with incredible insight. Clayton was taught to sprint by his dad, one of the best track coaches in the state of Illinois. When kids compete for an hour, theyre never sprinting. For as much as team sports value speed they sure dont seem to put kids in the right environment to develop it. If you don't see that going well then neither will the coach, and your boy won't make the team or he will be the bench warmer until that growth spurt hits. He had knee surgery the first week of June and was only cleared to run 100% the end of last week. Most importantly, the mechanics of proper stride, arm swing, start position, body angle & several other factors have now been added to his run mechanics moving forward. Replies and comments they make will be collapsed/hidden by default. Are colleges moving more toward the recorded speeds of a player going from the plate to first? Tony Holler is the track coach at Plainfield North High School. Check out the video below to hear tips on how to get recruited from D1 baseball athlete and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord. I raced someone who could jump a half foot higher than me, he took like one step and gave up. Both measure lateral speed and quickness. My assumption is that thereis a significant increase in participants within the same graduation class over time to their Jr year. As a freshman, T.J. was my starting quarterback for a team that went 9-0, outscoring their opponents 458-38. What age do scouts look at baseball players? Does anyone know what the average college time from home to first is? If youre a youth or high school coach your #1 goal has to be making the kids that you work with better overall athletes And people. 100 meter dash: 13.59 1.41 meter long jump Similarly, the average 20-yard split was 2.61 seconds at the combine and 2.62 seconds at their pro days. Why does the chart not continue on to age 50, 60, 70 etc. I like to steal Tony and Chads phrase speed grow like a tree. Truer words were never spoken!! Find out more about AAU baseball teams and tournaments. If we were to use the information people send us it would be a mess. If you see guys running with parachutes behind them, turn around and walk out. All she cares about is being fast, oh and loving Jesus. You'd better be careful of kids "watching the stop watch," trying to overrun and blowing out their knee. 7.83 was as a 14yr 8month (my mistake in the prior post). I think he was like thesmart kid who does poorly in standardized tests until somebody gives him basic techniquefor time management, guessing strategy, etc. Not once did I pay to play. This would certainly skew the numbers (and percentage gain) over time. Multiple vital factors can help determine whether athletes have good starting speed in their 20-yard Dash. She is running a 6.4 second 40 meter consistently. . Parents strategize. The link doesn't seem to beworking - for me, anyway. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Any sprint more than five seconds trains something other than max-speed. Chris Johnson who ran a 4.24 seems to be an anomaly as he is the only . My prodigious offspring runs a 5.2 60 as a 15 y/o while dragging an obdurate mule behind him. The kids that are close or need the extra work, cant afford to compete year round. Coaches are going to begin looking at prospects as soon as they are physically developed enough to give a reliable estimation of how they will project as an 18- to 21-year-old player. He's a good running back too, but you really want him on the OL. Interesting information. I have times from last year for our team. The server responded with {{status_text}} (code {{status_code}}). Did the timer say "go" or start the clock when the runner started? I have limited space as we share a practice field with 4 other age groups. Learn More{{/message}}. Endurance athletes are efficient, not fast. Go to the PG website and look up the teams attending past or upcoming tournaments, and find out which teams or programs are nearby. Hot I informally timed my 12u CF (2022)with an 8.0. It amazes me that this is still not understood (or is it all about not wanting to share the success of the athlete?). Baseball also commonly uses the 60 yard dash in testing. In my experience Ive not seen one kid specialize that went on to the level they thought they wanted to go to! 2002-2023 NCSA College Recruiting All Rights Reserved. I have been telling school sports coaches to use their track coach for 30 years! Age 9 40yd 5.62, LJ 122, SB Throw 120, Turbo Jav 519. Each time he focused and trained for only one thing, for example he trained hard and only focused on his 60 time for one of the showcases, only focused on getting his pop time down for another showcase. Look for a sprint coach whose strength training looks different than your high school football team back in the 80s or 90s. DI QB - 6'3" 200 40-4.6 RB - 6'0" 210 40-4.5 My DD just keeps getting slower lol. An athletic kid in good shape can bear crawl like it is a natural thing. The junior has gained almost 20 lbs and dropped from a 6.9 to a 6.68 electronic. Be cautious of speed training with ex-NFL players and ex-college athletes who failed to graduate. Or youre lying. Sprinting is never achieved in high-volume situations. T.J. Kane was a typical athletic kid. With a little training a kid can improve his sixty time beyond what comes naturally. As soon as you accept this, it all becomes clear. They are going to be following up with their coach(es) to see how seriously they take their training. Start at the baseline and have someone time you from the baseline to service line. We have been timing 27 for years so my data is now junk for comparison sake. What people tend to forget is that a 40-yard dash time of 4.5 or even 4.6 seconds is blistering fast. Average 100 Yard Dash Time by Age. Note: Im talking sprint training. That makes total sense. Ill take this article to my masters athlete friends and share. We paired up with a buddy & had both of them train & it cut cost in a major way ($45 / 1 Hr. Local boy posted an 89 at a showcase, but 2 weeks before he posted a 90 at a PG game, the 90 is what is listed as his best. purpose: The aim of this test is to determine . The results? Any specific YouTube training videos anyone would recommend for short burst, form? My Daughter just turned 10 and her time is 5.53. Tony Holler is a member of Illinois Track & Field Hall of Fame and Co-director of Track Football Consortium along with Chris Korfist. And that is still not understood in the rehab world. average 20 yard dash time by age chart . Former D1 baseball player and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord breaks down what skills D1 college coaches look for in both right-handed and left-handed pitchers. I'm guessing he didn't get recruited as a catcher. Also wanted to add that I spoke to a pro scout recently who said he oncepersonally clocked Ichiro at 3.25 from home to first. I do tend to think that acceleration is useful for training purposes maybe not for max speed but for power development outside weight gym it does correlates nicely. Well Done. Pitchers looking to play at the D1 level should aim to reach an ERA below 2.00. Contact their program and go watch their off season workouts. Recruits need to show the strength, speed and general athleticism to make the jump. Understanding what college baseball scouts are looking for in position players in terms of height, weight and skill can help student-athletes better focus their school search on programs that offer a level of competition that is the best match for them. OBP: .450 Slugging: .550 (minimum 2 at bats per game) So, from a statistics standpoint (and PGStaff could confirm), I would assume that as the further the graduation date (i.e., younger player), the smaller you sample size in the numbers from PG. I also understand that the origin of the 60 is that it matches home to 2nd base. Sprint mechanics must be taught. Amazing! It factors weight into a player's 40-yard dash time assigning a premium to fast times run by bigger, often spaner, running backs. What will often separate recruits in the mind of coaches is how serious a prospect takes their sport. The scores to the left are average times and the score to the right is the best score I have seen in that drill. There are times when he doesnt feel like going to the club and we let him decide his schedule. My only disagreement is the multiple sport comment. John Gash, Santa Rosa 7 19.8 100m 1973, 33-0 800g JT 1974,. How fast can Usain Bolt run the 40 yard dash? OMG I am now running a 4.80 and im still 10. Coaches are looking for the best fits for their team. The time differences were evenly distributed between 0. 20-yard sprint: Run 60 feet to measure speed from home plate to first base. I would be curious to see that. Solved The following average times were measured between 2000 and 2012 at the NFL combine for players who played at least 5 games. If they arent wearing spikes, they arent sprinting. They recommended that there is no special sprint training at the club. MLB average also? Unapproved John Ross holds the official electronic record at 4.22 seconds. Its been 3 months and I dropped my 40m time from 5.00 to 4.72 hand timed. We can't be very reliable if we report something we didn't actually see. Regardless of your age, prospects should focus on getting better and putting themselves in the right position against the best competition available. if you're really slow, then what you ran was probably a 20 yard dash. I dont have enough training awareness to recognize things he could do, other than just saying go faster. Im assuming the 40 times posted here for the 9 year old kid were recorded by hand. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. *Measure 30 yards (90 feet) and 60 yards (180 feet) in the outfield. Video must be analyzed. This comes naturally to him because my wife doesnt eat salty or spicy food either. So my current objective is to let a kid be a kid. Getting evaluated by a trusted third-party or a current coach will provide an objective assessment of how a recruit measures up against scholarship-level athletes in relation to these guidelines. You would be one of the fastest 15 year-olds in the world if your ran a 3.9-4.0, and I seriously doubt you can come close to 4 seconds. Keep in mind in high school your 9th grader could very easily be pitted against a 17 year old senior. The competition for playing time is tough. Parents invest. She runs 100 meters in 14 seconds. To calculate your age graded percent (often abbreviated AGP or AG%), we take your time and divide it by the world record time at that distance. Great article. The player starts in a three-point stance, runs 5 yards to their right, touches a line . Learn More{{/message}}, {{#message}}{{{message}}}{{/message}}{{^message}}It appears your submission was successful. Age 7 40yd 7.05, LJ 86, SB Throw 886, Turbo Jav 273 | At the high school level, the 40-Yard Dash is usually timed by hand, meaning a person with a stopwatch clocks your 40. At 10 i would look at 30 yard dash times. 3.5 years 36 seconds Heres his 8th grade PRs from this years track season: I think it is very interesting to look at some of the top HS draft pick's PG profiles & pages when they have a deep history. Great article thanks for all the sprinting information. Thanks again for another great article Tony. My other point is, I agree with the above points about sensible training schedules and intensity for youth. What is the best way for high school catchers to market themselves to D1 college coaches? kidrock, Welcome to the site that is a great question that is worth posting as a new topic (as to not divert too much from this one). All of this, of course is a spoof on how apoplectic some people get over radar gunning pitchers and asking about average velocities at younger ages. I kept a scrapbook, not a Twitter account. He ran a 6.82 at a showcase (laser timed) on 4 June, so he is attending another one next week in the hopes of getting down to 6.7would be nice to hit that time since he just turned 17. Thanks again. After a while, I was starting to think that I should move up and start doing 800m more but then I started doing a speed school and focused on top speed and acceleration. He is too young to join most of the soccer teams( at least in my town) though in couple of months he will be playing in a soccer team. I just begun to train my 6y and 10 months old son on the sprint for his soccer gamme. My technique was raw back then, so I think I could be faster now. My kid actually ranks super high in a sixty but doesn't run the bases all thatwell. Average time by position [ edit] According to a five-year NFL combine report, wide receivers and cornerbacks had the fastest average times at 4.48, followed by running backs at 4.49. Athletes get fast when they develop good sprint habits. I have run through 40yd to compare acceleration to top speed theres always a 0.7-0.8 difference for me, so dont believe the site that compares an insane 11 second and I repeat insane 100m to a 4.85 40yd. 63 & 64 mph!!! 20 yard- 2.9 seconds. If you are 6.7 but don't seem to move too well on the bases, they'll call you average. If that's on a hand time then you can typically add. "A boy comes to me with a spark of interest and it becomes a flame. Id say the best way to get a base is to look over research. Oh, my best lineman (5'9" 225) ran a 5.45 so guess who is pulling on my counter plays. I would expect there to be some improvement gains as one gets older (similar to strength or velocity) but how much is considered typical? Would you have more extended ref timings grid by ages available somewhere ? Our favorite two segments to analyze are 0-20 and 10-40, and the formula for success is uncomplicated: ii.lxx seconds from 0-20 yards and three.00 seconds from ten-forty yards. They offered her based on her current size and speed. . Your supposed time translates to around a 4.1 40 yard dash which would break Deion Sanders . Track & field can be a life long sport, if youre not doing killer-mentality training at age 14, thus wearing out parts. You didn't even come remotely close. Kids should perform all sprint training in a non-fatigued state. We train with elite, young athletes in Texas at a highly reputable speed development facility and have never seen a 5.45 40 posted by anyone younger than 11 years old. -- Vince Lombardi, On another note, how fast a kid can run in a straight line doesn't tell me anything about what position he is going to playjmo. Recent Posts Unread Posts Tags, Forum Icons: Im sure shell plateau big time at some point but its fun to go out and do once a year. It seems all little kids play soccer these days. Strength relative to your body weight matters. Rep Power: 3889. a 3.41 in the 20 is horrible, especially for someone of your body type, based on your stats. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. maybe you mean the 30 yd dash, in which case a 3.41 is actually really fast. CF with a big bat.certainly didn't hurt himself in front of the scouts with that performance. He won all the races he ran last Wednesday so I know hes fast I was just wondering how fast he is, once again thanks for the information. We mostly do 100 meter running. My 2017 son's experience was probably a bit of an anomaly but going into this past summer his best "official" 60 was 7.0. How fast can Usain Bolt run the 40 yard dash? 40 (2) = Second 40-yard dash time per NFL Network coverage 40 (O) = Official 40-yard dash time from NFL Network coverage and NFL.com 10 (1) = First 10-yard split time per NFL Network coverage This is from a coach who has timed 100's over 20 years. I was not fast 4.8 40yd. Hes still not a candidate to run on my 41, but he sure looks fast on the football field. This means for the 60 yard dash: 9.5 sec age 11 9.0 sec age 12 8.5 sec age 13 8.0 sec age 14 7.5 sec age 15 7.3 sec age 16 7.1 sec age 17 6.9 sec age 18 9/27/163:34 PM 0 Original Post Replies sorted oldest to newest RJM HSBaseballWeb member since 2007 All of these are timed and then I add the times together and the lowest total times are the best athletes on the team. His exit velocity(ball leaving the bat) went from 82 to 89-90 mph. I think the later bloomers have bigger jumps at the HS ages. Thanks lot. Less than two percent of high school players go on to play Division 1 college baseball, but there are more opportunities at the other division levels. I was really just tying to find out what would be considered a normal 20 yd time and fast one. Its not FA but Im very accurate with a stopwatch. Heres my issue. He was best at throwing and catching a football.