And at the end of the novel, their still justalone. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Jiang Cheng So maybe you can try that? Episode #1.1. Guo Haoran (animation)Gao Shang (animation - child)Peng Yao (audio drama)Zhao Xiaojiang (audio drama - child)Wang Kai (web series) He was willing to be tortured to death for him and still stood by him even after WWX publicly humiliated him/their sect, acted like an ass for "no reason", abandoned their sect to protect virtual strangers. But right now, the golden core revolving within him took away all that confidence.'. [20], When Wei Wuxian rescues Wen Ning, Wen Qing, and the rest of the Wen Clan's remnants from the Lanling Jin Clan, killing several of their cultivators in the process, Jiang Cheng initially defends the two Wens who had saved their lives, though he apologizes for Wei Wuxian's actions. I was super engaged for the first half, but by the time they were explaining wei yings backstory about how jiang yanli died I was just unconvinced by the plots developments. Im Vietnamese so I think the text Ive read is a lot closer to the original text compared to the English version due to language similarities. However, to his surprise, Wei Wuxian, Lan Wangji, and Wen Ning had arrived earlier to free the juniors. I assume is to save time as it is not possible to cover the whole book in 35 episodes (including season 3, the final season). It makes me think that he wanted to die and to stay dead. JC is a very realistic and relatable personality, which means he's complicated and his emotions aren't all that straightforward. 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He locks his new martial brother out of their room and threatens to send dogs after him, prompting Wei Wuxian to flee. See..when Lan Zhan asks him..how did u die. Also known as the Yiling Patriarch (, Ylng Loz), he died in the first siege of the Burial Mounds . I think his strongest feeling was jealousy and envy which was influenced from his mom. Jin Ling divides his time between Yunmeng and Lanling. For the same reason, he takes a sword cut for WWX, brings him back his dizi, and chooses to let WWX walk away and not stop him or burden him with the knowledge that the reason he lost his core was to save WWX in the first place. [35], Wei Wuxian admits his identity, and Jiang Cheng angrily reminds him of his remark about Jin Ling's mother. Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng returned to the Jiang family, and Jiang Fengmian and a few juniors were preparing to eat. In the novel, he leads the siege on burial mounds that results in WWX's death. What if he realised he was so alone and then comited suicide. [8], Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji, remain trapped in the cave. But its not fairy tale love and theyre going to be tense with each other. JC still helped WWX by faking the fight to let him defect. Currently, the original novel by MXTX ( | M Xing Tng Xi) has been adapted into a donghua, manhua, audio drama and live action! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. JC has a lot to process, a lot to swallow. And hes a clown I think one of the reasons he hates wwx that he always wanted to find someone to put all the blame and sadness on, JC can't hate WWX, even he himself said "shouldn't I hate you, can't I hate you?". Lan Zhang also said that he looked for clues in the Nightless City and found out that the zombies didn't actually backfire on him. Both JC and JYL love WWX deeply. Audio Drama Now that's all the numbers of reasons I think Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian and others mainly because he was choosing to look the other way or because he was acting like a spoiled brat. Its quite sad but I personally dont forgive his characters atrocious behaviour towards WWX, regardless of whether you hate yourself or not, you dont get lash out at people the way he did WWX. Hed been blaming him for so long and the bad blood and complicated history between them runs quite deep e.g. Because WWX gave his golden core to JC without a doubt, without questioning a thing. When the two begin hand-to-hand combat, Jiang Cheng originally holds the advantage. (Not sure if it was mentioned in the live action that the fight was fake). Agree that the novel is a little ambiguous. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! Other cultivators were actively trying to provoke WWX, but in the end he kind of made his own decisions that brought about devastating results. 185 cm He was Wei Ying, courtesy name Wei WuXian. Official Like I said at the beginning, the more he waited the angrier at WWX he got. Jin Ling, however, returned the weapon and fought the corpses with Suihua, despite Jiang Cheng's frantic worry for his safety. But the most compelling for it to be suicide is that Wei wuxian himself made it clear to Xue Yang that a soul who has no desire to be in this world cannot be summoned back. Jiang Cheng walked up and started stabbing the rocks that were beneath Lan Zhan. This might have gotten a bit off topic, but I guess my opinion would be just that JC wouldn't accept WWXs death, bcs he believed WWX has something to do, as in apologise to him on his knees and make him feel better and have a scape goat again Ehhh Yanli, why did u have to be an idiot and die Who is gonna make the lotus and disaster boy talk to each other without u . There are definitely a lot of clues and hints throughout the novel of his mental state though. Jiang Cheng blames Wei Wuxian for the death of his brother-in-law when Wei Wuxian lost control of Wen Ning while learning how to control corpses. Wen Ning then appears with Suibian in his hands. I think, based on the novel, that what JGY told him, that everyone wanted him to resent WWX to harm Jiang Sect, made him think finally a bit. JC only calls dogs to scares him out but trust me, he would never kill him. In the novel I was under the impression that he was in the purgatory, paying for what he did (or wandering as a broken soul because nobody give him a proper burial?). Clan Or if he were then we didnt see enough development to lead to that. Dog will cause trouble to Wei Wuxian.cat seems better" Jiang cheng says looking at wangxian angrily. at the time Wen Ning left thinking to WWX and attacked everyone his master perceived as a threat. SanduZidian Side notes : Idk why some of adaptation makes JC look like a bad person and WWX killer. ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} But out of the two of them, it's JC that bears the brunt of the damage WWX causes, politically. He takes Jiang Cheng to a mountain and instructs him to follow a path up the mountain, where he will meet Baoshan Sanren. When it comes to how the novel addresses WWX's darker emotions, part of me wonders if there are likecontextual or cultural things that get lost in translation? Wei Wuxian did have a gap in his memory in between using the seal in the battle of the nightless city and returning to the bottom of the Burial Mound, but he could remember what happened after . I don't think it is that he did not feel guilty (he feel guilty enough to autodestruct in order to break the stygian seal), but that he cannot accept that guilt because that mean that his decision to protect the Wens is something to regret. Jiang Yanli ran all the way over to the battlefield (unarmed), and she was injured but nothing too serious, she told Wei Wuxian to stop fightingwhen a mob is around them who would definitely attack should that happen, but she was grieving and Wei Wuxian too wasn't in the right mindset, the moment he stopped someone immediately tried to kill him, she saw that and pushed him out of the way and was killed, and Jiang Cheng saw all of this happen, he has no reason to blame it on Wei Wuxian. [44], Jiang Cheng verbally lashes out at Wei Wuxian, prompting Lan Wangji to warn him to "spare some virtue. Probably a little scratch would do. Chapter 16 Alive I agree that WWX shouldnt have gone full dark and angsty but I did want those feelings of his to be explored more, Im disappointed that the author left so much of that up to readers interpretation. Yu Ziyuan is infuriated, and turns her anger on her son when he defends Wei Wuxian, reminding him that Wei Wuxian still surpasses him in cultivation. Snd Shngshu snd lit. He uses Zidian in an attempt to expel Wei Wuxian's soul, though the technique fails because Wei Wuxian's soul has not actually possessed Mo Xuanyu's body. felt like hitting the hornets nest today OP? so to me it seems very clear that wei wuxian committed suicide after having lost his yiling family, already feeling guilt from inadvertently getting his shidi killed on the battlefield and then finding out his best friend and sworn brother was leading the charge against him personally and ready to kill everyone at burial mounds, including him. I think JC stabs the rock out of frustration, but it started to dislodge a piece. [27], Jiang Cheng allows the survivors to return to Lotus Pier to recover their spiritual power, and did not forbid Wei Wuxian from accompanying them. [55], After the Guanyin Temple incident, Jiang Cheng reflects on how he once sacrificed himself for Wei Wuxian and also includes a heartfelt wish for his martial brother to live well. He offends his third prospective bride, Rong Yan, by telling her that she wears unsuitable colors and that her perfume is like a noxious poison. [39], Eventually, Wei Wuxian decides to risk his own life to allow the cultivators to escape. He then reveals that he has brought Wei Wuxian's flute Chenqing and tosses it to him. JC had almost no time at all to process this information by the time they met at the temple. What chapter did Wei Wuxian die? Not even lan zhan could reach his spirit. I can't really speak about Chinese culture, but maybe differences here could explain why some of this was glossed over. I think if theres anyone JC actually hates, its himself and that again is because of his parents. Jiang Fengmian wore the purple robes . As Wei Wuxian gains enough mental strength to begin stopping the corpses, Jiang Yanli pushes him suddenly out of the way; taking a sword to the throat, she dies to save Wei Wuxian. He also suggests that she ask Wei Wuxian to choose a courtesy name for her future son. He has a bad temper from his youth, and his father treats him distantly, holding him fewer than five times that he can remember. He also insisted on keeping his surname. They said that Jiang Cheng's character is indeed scary, but he is not a bad person he is just a bit too dense, rough, and tsundere. Because he's his brother and he KNOWS his brother. Jin Zixuan ( short meta sentences ) Marriage: 19-23 He has a bad temper from his youth, and his father treats him distantly, holding him fewer than five times that he can remember. His escape, however, is interrupted by the arrival of the Fierce Corpse of Nie Mingjue. It's hard to start loving someone after 13 years of hating. !, for a long time he did hate wwx, and still wants to hate him, however, 'He shouldve been able to loathe Wei WuXian without a care. Episode 2Episode 3 (MDZS Q) three poisons; a Buddhist phrase for the root of all turmoil (greed, anger, ignorance) shngshu skilled practitioner Her mother was a prostitute taken in as a concubine by a sect leader with too many concubines already, and her entire childhood was one fight for dominance after another, woman against woman in the worst sort of way. And this was when WWX said he would always serve JC and then would be twin heroes etc. Even if JC shouted that to the whole world, it wouldn't matter simply because WWX blindly gave his golden core to JC. Every time Fairy's growls grew in volume, Wei Wuxian clenched his eyes shut and hid further behind the second jade. Ultimately, he kept his mouth shut, because his pride had finally become less important to him than WWX's feelings.