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I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. Now she is crying the blues because she could have applied the outrageous price of the heaters and their exhorbitant use of electricity, to her regular heat bill. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. [17] Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Your info states 1000 cubic ft but the edenpure.com states 1000 sq ft. you also do no state the type of heaters being compared so this is not an apples to apples comparision just a guess. Perrysburg, Ohio and go home with your product the same day. Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. The number one reason not to buy a Bio Tech Research Eden Pure is people just like you and me on this site have given specific factual examples being abused after the sale by things which should have been disclosed before the sale. It is great for days like today when the chill was just too much in the house, but it is not something you want to use consistently during the day and night. I don't know where the originator here got the cubic feet, but that is not from the EdenPure advertisiing. I am preparing to do that now. I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. Yes, it is not as fast as any heater with a blower, however having that even heat is much more comfortable and healthy. It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. A UNIT is $1000. is too low you end up, cutting in a supply grill to bring the temp. Another interesting point that only Delbert seemed to make is--- how much maintenance is required? :). That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. I cannot comment about the energy saving from the Edenpure Gen 4 as it quit working about 2+ months after it was purchased on EBay from Bass Pro Outlets. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). All I did was laugh when the very reputable heating and air company in our town quoted this amount. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. To reduce how much electricity or gas your hot water uses and bring your bills down, consider these tips: Turn down the thermostat: Many hot water heaters are set to 140 degrees by default, but 120 is plenty hot for most household uses, and creates less of a scalding risk. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. If you can't understand that then you must be stupid. Let me easily explain. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. FACT: Nonsense. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. The customer service for these things is terrible, they leave you waiting on line for long periods listen to a recording telling you over and over you will wait less than a minute. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. So, I turned on the EdenPure, had it on high, which I didn't need to do, and my upstairs is varying from a toasty 70 degrees to 67 at the farthest areas from the EdenPure. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. Call now at (937) 773-8350 to schedule a service request today 2) People keep saying a BTU is a BTU and you can't get more energy out of electricity than is put in. Our house is more than 2800 square feet (not cubic feet) and we have the heater down stairs. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. An electric heater is an electrical device that converts an electric current into heat. An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. The point has been made of how some feel about it. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. There has got to be heat loss, because travels a long distance from the furnace ouside to the farthest point. The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. I have a Master of Science degree in Electrical Engineering, so I can tell you with precision that EdenPure's claims are false and misleading. Have i used them. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. Love my EdenPURE heater! I might buy a DuraFlame simply because it is the same and half the price. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! State notices to consumers [affirm.com/licenses]. Construction Company. Download PDF manuals for your EdenPURE product. I know others you spoke with like theirs, but it would be helpful to all readers to hear your experience. Qualifying programs are: Capacity Bidding Program (CBP)* - available for residential customers. It costs me about $9.00 per day to heat my house with Propane. It costs me about $2.00 per day to heat my house with Eden Pure. It will cost more. Look at your furnace's btu rating. Both heated equal areas in comparable ways, even though the Lasko only costs about $50. Do not take my word for it call yourself 1-800-294-0280 and see if you can get through. So, all is not equal definitely. The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? Hello everyone,Wow what a group of knowledge about the Eden pure heater glad that I came upon this Hub.I find the info very good, and I would like to thank all of you for your comments especially Energy Eng.,Lots of good suggestions and just good ole plain sense.I've been looking at getting one of the Eden pures and just trying it out to see if it will accommodate some of my heating needs.My wife and I are not sure what type to get ,but we know that the basic hearter furnance is not the most efficient.We will try it and get back to you all.Again thanks for the info and the laughs.God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and Holidays. However, your actual price will depend largely on the size and type of heater you choose. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. Secure it to the basement wall using the appropriate masonry anchors for your foundation wall. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. http://pelletheat.org/pellets/compare-fuel-costs/. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. Most water heaters include a label listing the annual. You still need them. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. Received two as a gift, have to run them both simultaneously to only get very modest heat. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. CLAIM: [Other heaters with] cheap ceramic plates reduce humidity. If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. Water Heater Installation Cost. I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. Any way, thank you. I tried to return the heater and it has been a running around to find the right place where I purchased it from. The memos, allegedly written in 1972 and 1973, were obtained by CBS News producer Mary Mapes and freelance journalist Michael Smith, from Lt. Col. Bill Burkett, a former US Army National Guard officer. I have a ceramic cube heater I bought 25 years ago for $19.95 that will. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. Debra Breckenridge on September 20, 2011: I bought an Eden hearter last Dec. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). All EdenPURE does is dress it up and jack the price to the stratosphere. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. Larger units typically cost more, and other features and upgrades may drive the price up to . The E.P. You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. of insurance. Thank you so much! EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. For now it has a basic menu of hamburgers & wings. Outputs range from 75,000 Btu to 450,000 Btu. Hogwash. You're a blind moron, since you started name calling, when I'm just trying to help people out. The problem with this, of course, is that you are not saving money by heating the house more efficiently. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. No repairs either. I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. Sign in to create job alert. Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. But remember Edenpure didn't directly claim they would save you money, that was just the testimonials that they scattered throughout the infomercial which claimed savings. Im just another sucker. The clue is in the word personal . 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. Would i buy this. The family film tells the story of Bobby Burkett (Huffman), the quarterback for Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas, a small catholic high school. That way, I do believe you can save money especially during the night while sleeping. I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). Same reasons. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. The Amazon vendor that sells the $15.99 Lasko heater shown above wants $27.00 shipping! This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. That is the real savings. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. We have really high ceilings. Eden Pure is a scam because the details are hidden in clever word usage the average person, many of them on here I see, cannot grasp. Nothing has changed. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. FACT: Of course it will. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. Don't buy Edenpure heater they are scammer. I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. Publication Date: 05/25/2006 . If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. Please check with your Demand Response Aggregator for eligibility. THIS is the reason the heating companies have zone heating. Contact Burkett's Heating & The heater has been an awsome pool heater and we have had great luck with it over the years. The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. Smart Thermostats. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. It doesn't mater what's inside the box. Second is that you can lower your thermastat while only heating an inner room. Furnaces. Answer: You will need to review your homeowner's policy to see if this heater is covered. My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. After calling the hardware store that sold the heater was told I would have to contact the company who finally sent a shipping label but the instructions say that you must use the original box. Installing a water heater replacement costs between $845 and $1,698, or an average of $1,271, for a tank-based unit and labor. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. Of course heat rises, but are any of you 8 feet tall to feel that it may be warmer at the ceiling?? This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. etc,. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. I took a look at these today in a True Value store. This has been disputed. I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. up. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. That's right. Question: What is the best portable heater? They definitely do state 1000 SQ.FT., not cubic feet.I really don't need you to explain to me the difference in cubic feet and square feet. Referrals increase your chances of interviewing at IMPACT by 2x. In addition to that, the new windows, more insulation, more efficient unit(s) will reduce your electricity. Thank you for the validation. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. Bill Burkett fights back A key player in the Dan Rather Memogate saga sends a letter to CBS, charging that its independent investigation destroyed his reputation and ignored the network's own . They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. Looked first at a $14.99 ceramic heater that uses 1500 watts and is rated at just over 5000 btu's. Delivery & Pickup Options - 214 reviews of Bill's Burgers, Wings & Things "New venture by the owners of the Maxican Restaurant here in Burnet. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. Common sense. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. If you need a space heater and you want to needlessly make someone rich by buying something over-priced, by all means go with the Eden. As well as my cats! Less expensive models one have tubes. I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. I needed the one with electric thermostat but I did not get that. Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH. But using ANY space heater will lower your heating bill if you turn your thermostat down! Jobinhoud: Voor een familiebedrijf in Ranst gaan wij op zoek naar een Customer Service Officer die zal fungeren als centraal aanspreekpunt voor onze klanten.Je helpt hen enthousiast verder bij vragen ivm het productaanbod, prijzen, bestellingen & klachten.Verder bestaat jouw takenpakket uit: Afhandelen van eigen dossiers (bestelbonnen aanpassen, lijsten opmaken, leveringen/retourbons inzetten,) I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. I was specifically sold on Bob Vila's endorsement of the product thinking I can trust the home improvement guru. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. Once these last bulbs burn out, I will no longer use this over priced heater. I have tried to return it for refund, but had to have the ORIGINAL shipping container, which I do not have after 2+ months, and neither Bass Pro Outlet nor Edenpure will accept the return w/o original shipping box, which Edenpure will NOT sell me because they say they only have one container per heater produced. *** So the smaller heater will produce heat but others that I have tried burn the air. I would rather have on sweats, even with another shirt under and be comfortable with my $200. I just received an ad in the mail for a Comfort Furnace, Infrared Heater, that has all the same claims as the Eden Pure and selling for $329.00 (sale price) and a 3 yr warranty. Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. As for bob vila. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. I'll definitely buy another. In other words a fan force heater will heat a space faster and then turn off faster while a pure convection heater will take much longer. Especially true if the ductwork is uninsulated or leaks air. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. Some people still can't get it. Zero marketing at that point. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. I am trying to heat about a 400 SQ foot area. They, too, use energy, but not . The cost was going to be $10,000. When the sunlight is in the right direction, I can see the dust particles floating by the intake. Nonetheless, they can be useful for heating small spaces, such as a small room or office cubicle. You'll love it. However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. I WAS FREEZING. The heat is a soft even heat and is extremely comfortable. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. If your electric company charges you 10 cents per kilowatt hour and you run a 1,500-watt space heater for 10 hours, that will cost $1.50. I have read some very interesting posts on this website and one thing I can tell you is, you can spot the smart persons from the not so smart persons. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. For example, an oil based electric heaterit is convection only. This article will examine the claims made by EdenPUREs manufacturer and expose their lies. Even a child knows that hot air rises. There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. They make for a much more comfortable room than ceiling fans. [1] What I do not understand is if the heater is so great why are not the customer service personal returning calls. Thanks. This actually makes their heater less efficient. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. Heat from #2 fuel oil burning furnace will cost you $33.25 for 1 million btus, if you are paying $3.58 per gallon. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. The machine shot out sparks. VERY EXPENSIVE, but interestly enough my sisters was higher and she has a smaller home and a heat pump. Investigations into his military service led to the Killian documents controversy. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us Now, that may seem cold to some of you, but no other heater identical to this one is going to do any better and if they are not this safe, you would have to have your central heat on. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. They were not meant to be used in that manner. There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. To enhance the gameday experience in the Jim Kelly, Van Miller and Paul Maguire Clubs, a radiant heating system was installed and ready for use during the chilly games of the 2013 season. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. Everything is on the website and on the adverts. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. Connect with Us 5360 Red Arrow Hwy, Stevensville, MI 49127 PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. Caveat emptor. That was going to be a total of 5-6 zones. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. I bought one several years ago and saved like at least 100. on my first electric bill. Look at fuel price comparisons, you'll see that electric heat is by far the most expensive. Buyer beware. The documents, purported to have been typed in the early 1970s, were likely produced many years later with a computer using Microsoft Word on default settings. I bought BOTH the heater and the air filter. A 1500-watt heater will produce at most 5000 BTUs. Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house.

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