In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Loading is always at your own risk. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. When we are sold out, we are sold out. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. Your link has been automatically embedded. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. Warning! Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Load at your own risk. BrianEnos.com I found anything much lower to be too weak. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Nuff said. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. Pasted as rich text. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. You cannot paste images directly. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. Seen a few of those over the years. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. Upgrade efforts paused for now. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. JavaScript is disabled. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. This is a flattened spherical powder. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. Display as a link instead, Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. C.O.A.L. It's accurate and reliable. Skip this one, you can do better. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. . Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Thanks for your patience. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. I dont think i would worry about it. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. containers. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Early on, its pointy full-metal-jacket rounds gave the 9x19mm a reputation as a horrible antipersonnel round. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. looking4reloadingdeals JavaScript is disabled. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Feb 27, 2020. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! Starting at mid range up to max. 10-12 ft according to my chronos instructions inorder to prevent getting false readings due to the muzzle blast. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. Both Plated round nose and JHP. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. JavaScript is disabled. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. Appreciate the input. Nov 7, 2015. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. All I had was word of mouth and books. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Unique. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. containers. You are using an out of date browser. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Thanks all. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Why? So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? Powered by Invision Community. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. I consider the type of bullet. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. I do know its about mid charge range tho. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Save Share. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. I've had good luck with 3.4gr of Titegroup with the 147fmj boolit. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? Probably saved me some money. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! This is safe, yes? I wonder why the difference. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Shellholders: Lee #19 ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. Your previous content has been restored. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. was 1146fps. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. Nuts accurate. You need to get teh double disc kit. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. For 231 I used 4.3 gr @ 1.130" OAL. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. It's for practice, not for competition. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. 1.100 in. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) And how are you metering 3.3gr? . Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. I want to be safe. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. and 8 lb. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. So filling up half way looks normal. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. Thanks guys. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Is this not a safe load? I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Clear editor. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. It's for practice, not for competition. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website.
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