We have also used Modern Curriculum Press and Miquon for the younger grades. Viewing 2 posts - 1 through 2 (of 2 total) Author Posts July 4, 2013 at 4:05 am RickiParticipant Ut-oh…I have a bad feeling that I should not have purchased Saxon… Math-U-See Whether you’re new to Math-U-See or a long-time friend, you’ll find exactly what you need for your math student right here. He’s a black and white kind of guy – so he was on Saxon (which I feel is a strong math curriculum), but got bored, acting like he couldn’t do the work, and we switched to Math-U-See. If she won't learn math by watching the solution being done (like saxon explains in it's chapters) then Math U See might be better. I do not think I would use Saxon math even though it is highly reviewed. What level should I start my child? The information is still relevant today because it contains general information about Saxon and how to plan your math … After eight grade bring on the algebra by any publisher and students will be able to handle it. For all students who did not use Math 8/7 for pre-algebra, Shormann Algebra 1 includes ten 5-minute drills to develop fluency in these skills. You probably cook too. The reviews about kids really disliking math, “kill and drill,” and even some families reporting they burned the workbooks when they quit scared us. Reviews of all of the math curriculum we’ve tried over 10 years of homeschooling. Math-U-See continuously reviews and integrates topics and concepts that were presented in previous levels. Some of the children got bogged down in A Beka 3, so I moved them to 5/4 part way through the year. I like Saxon. They like using the blocks and I think the teaching back part of it is great. But after using all 3 in our 14 years of homeschooling there is a clear winner. What should my child do after Saxon Math 7/6…Saxon Math 8/7? I wouldn't even consider Saxon, do your own research, see what others are saying. First, there was the U.S. edition, an Americanized version of the original Singaporean curriculum.This became the go-to version of Singapore Math for many homeschool families. As most homeschoolers know Math-U-See and Saxon Math are among the top choices in math curriculum. What path do you suggest for Algebra, Geometry and Advanced Math? Stick with Math-U-See so your student understands the principles of math. We took all these suggestions for Middle School math and 39 other subjects of curriculum in our FREE Homeschool Family Favorites Guide. A few years ago I created a video about Saxon Math for you (at the time I had a 3rd and 7th grader). Math U See. It was an utter disaster. A pre-algebra course is a normal and recommended part of a child's math education as they make the journey from a world of mostly numbers (arithmetic) to a world of mostly letters (algebra). Saxon Math: We started with Saxon 1st grade in Kindergarten for both Aidan and Gresham (I think that Saxon runs slightly behind). I use saxon math at school and I find it hard to lean all the concepts. So back to Singapore Math we ran, and there we stayed for awhile. LOLShelly. (Just because it checks all the boxes doesn’t mean it’s … I also don't like that there is no mastery of some concepts at this point in Saxon...I guess they plan to introduce it several times in the next year or so before mastery is expected. Horizons Math did not do well at all with my son when he was in first grade – it was too colorful for him to concentrate. This curriculum is especially effective with children that have ADHD. Curriculum Reviews C. S. Lewis Biography ~ Christian Heroes: Then & Now ~ Book Review. This plus the spiral format makes it hard for children to see how all the pieces of the puzzle fit together and can lead to not understanding math very well. My experience with Math U See. We have also seen very strong college entrance exam scores for students using Singapore Math in the elementary years and Saxon Math in grades 7-12. Subject:Math U See vs. Saxon Hi Michelle ~ I've used Saxon for a number of years in my resource room, and just began using MUS this fall with one student. There are a lot of great math curriculums. We started Kindergarten with some custom wooden boxes (no longer made by the way) and all our books and multiple manipulative sets. John Saxon, together with Stephen Hake, authored two pre-algebra textbooks: Saxon Math 8/7 and Saxon Algebra 1/2*. This is not a problem if you are going to school long-term, but quite difficult if you just want to homeschool for a year. There are many lessons that are great, but there are definitely "holes" in the curriculum when lining it up with our Standards of Learning..therefore, we have to supplement with other things. Personal Thoughts about Saxon Math. Maths Australia's innovative program empowers students through maths. or Algebra 1? This is because it is always jumping around. The testimonies we regularly hear from families who have chosen other math programs continue to strengthen our belief that Saxon is the best choice for grades 7-12 grades. Our choices were Saxon (with the DIVE CD’s), Math-U-See, and Teaching Textbooks. We ruled out Saxon after reading too many negative reviews. I am in my 20th year of homeschooling and I've tried several math programs. I definitely will be using Singapore Math. Tagged: math, Math U See, pre-algebra, saxon This topic has 1 reply, 2 voices, and was last updated 7 years, 6 months ago by TailorMade. for a multitude of reasons, which I’m listing in no particular order: Math-U-See (Grades K - 12) Program Goal: Math-U-See uses manipulatives to illustrate and teach math concepts. We just skipped though Saxon 1 a lot for the first half until it got more challenging. I use saxon math at school and I find it hard to lean all the concepts. This means printing out more sheets from the MUS website but it is so worth it if your kids get them memorized since everything else builds on the multiplication tables! Math-U-See helps everyone learn maths, build confidence and develop maths mastery. I know alot of home educators use Saxon, but it is still not designed for a tutoring setting. But I like the looks of how they work that process. This is because it is always jumping around. Math 8/7, 3rd Edition does a much better job of this than any other curriculum I know of, including Saxon Algebra 1/2. As much as I love Math U See, I purchased Saxon 5/4 last year to try with my son. I believe math is more beneficial for many children when newer concepts are introduced and incorporated more so than with how they incorporate with math-u-see. What path do you suggest for Algebra, Geometry and Advanced Math? I'm excited about starting something new and your comments are helping me relax about my choice. Saxon, Teaching Textbooks, and Math-U-See are fantastic programs. We used Abeka prior to this. It's a luxury that we have so many good options! We used 5th grade Teaching Textbooks this year for our 4th grader {coming from ABeka} and loved it. The drawback of Math-U-See is that you need to give placement tests to determine where your child needs to start as it is not broken down into grade levels. It's nice also b.c you can supplement the program using whatever manipulatives you have.Right now, we use a more exploratory math program called Investigations. (I used these math resources in high school) Aleks Math; CTC Math (online) Life of Fred* Math-U-See (video-based)* Mr. D Math (online live classes) Plus, I know that when he reaches the Challenge level of CC, they teach from Saxon (although you can still use any math curriculum at … He’s a black and white kind of guy – so he was on Saxon (which I feel is a strong math curriculum), but got bored, acting like he couldn’t do the work, and we switched to Math-U-See. As I said, I really struggled with math (if you look back over this forum, you'll see my rants about the current math teaching ). We've used Saxon K-76, Mathematical Reasoning, Prof. B, Math-it, and more. homeschool edition) is recommended instead of Algebra 1/2. . The kids lacked understanding and comprehension of the rote processes of math. or Algebra 1? Which editions should I use? After eight grade bring on the algebra by any publisher and students will be able to handle it. I know my more kinesthetic kids will probably need MUS through the rest of their schooling but I am open to switching with the oldest because she has the brain for Saxon. He was just getting tired of the same curriculum and wanted a change. I was IN, 100%. ;). I am thinking about switching him to Math U See because we aren’t satisfied with Saxon. The Curriculum Choice Our Home on the Range. My question was if I were to start him in Epsilon this November, would he be able to complete the book by the end the school year (May). Saxon and Math-U-See are the ones I get asked about the most. -Saxon textbook’s focus mostly on procedural math (the “how” of math) rather than conceptual (the “why” behind the procedures). Math-U-See is a manipulative-based complete math curriculum that utilizes video instruction and interlocking, colorful blocks and fraction overlays to teach math, along with a textbook and worksheets to provide the review and reinforcement. I definitely will be using Singapore Math. Saxon, Teaching Textbooks, and Math-U-See are fantastic programs. Tracy / March 23, 2020 They each bring something unique to the table, as opposed to many math curriculums which are very much the same as … Since we moved ahead too quickly, she never really GOT her facts completely memoried by the end of the year and struggled as the problems got bigger. Math U See is good for kids who need to be hands-on to learn. Saxon, Teaching Textbooks, and Math-U-See are fantastic programs. We have used three math curriculums before finding what works for us. Math-U-See is math you'll love. Comparing the differences between Saxon Math vs. Singapore Math for Elementary Grades. He was unique :-)This system seems to have worked well for my kids - so far!Lisa. I think right now the best thing is keeping that love of math high, and the frustration low. They each bring something unique to the table, as opposed to many math curriculums which are very much the same as they were Fifty years ago. He went on to public High school, and now in college, and has never had a struggle with Math. I have heard great things about Saxon for the upper elementary and middle/high school.You can add hands on and manipulatives on your own. Math-U-See is an excellent program and we adore their manipulatives; it just was a poor fit for my son. About Homeschooling , Curriculum Reviews , … Currently what works for my 2 dyslexic kids is Math U See. 1 0. For good SAT/ACT scores, I recommend A Beka (Christian) and Saxon (secular). I have math class on mondays, tuesdays, thursdays and fridays. Getting Started with Math-U-See Our unique approach to math education means that you might have some questions about exactly where and how to begin with Math-U-See. I have looked at other textbooks. Results matter. Before we found Math U See we tried Abeka, Saxon, and Horizons. But after using all 3 in our 14 years of homeschooling there is a clear winner. But Sarah, what about Singapore?!?!?! I don't know a whole lot about them, but heard that some teachers really like that program as well. Saxon math is the only one I know of other than a college algebra textbook that makes you do 30 problems per problem set. Upon successful completion of Saxon 8/7, students should start Shormann Algebra 1. It has also always been my plan to at some point make the switch to Saxon Math, because I used in junior and senior high and appreciated the repetition. Program Highlights: Math-U-See is a core curriculum for students in kindergarten through 12th grade. Horizons Math did not do well at all with my son when he was in first grade – it was too colorful for him to concentrate. Print samples, and check your gut. Horizons Math. Over the years, Singapore Math has created several different editions of the Primary Mathematics books used so successfully in Singaporean schools in the late ’90’s. One final thing I love about Math U See is how it INTEGRATES various math concepts throughout each level. I've heard such great things about all the curriculum you mentioned so I'm curious to see how people respond. Keep in both don’t explain things as thoroughly as I would’ve liked and you may have to supplement. I have purchased all the top math programs including: Math U See, Math Lessons for a Living Education, Teaching Textbooks, A Beka, Horizons, Singapore, Life of Fred, JUMP, RightStart, Saxon, and Strayer-Upton and put together the most comprehensive review you can find. If you want a fun approach that leans more towards whole learning go with Math-U-See. We have recently started using Khan Academy just as a bit of a something else to do. *Traditional math programs included in this comparison: Right Start, Saxon, IXL, Life Of Fred, Khan Academy, Math U See, Teaching Textbooks, Glencoe, Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, etc. Over the years, Singapore Math has created several different editions of the Primary Mathematics books used so successfully in Singaporean schools in the late ’90’s. He has always used Saxon since 5K and is currently in Saxon 8/7. My question was if I were to start him in Epsilon this November, would he be able to complete the book by the end the school year (May). I believe math is more beneficial for many children when newer concepts are introduced and incorporated more so than with how they incorporate with math-u-see. Explore More Therefore, Saxon Math 8/7, 3rd Edition (a.k.a. P A J A M A M A M A || A DIY & Homeschool Blog Highly recommended by both Mary Pride and Cathy Duffy, Saxon Math also wins our award for the “Most Requested Text.” Saxon math is a “user-friendly” math program - even for Algebra, Trigonometry, Calculus and other generally difficult math topics. We switched to Math U See. Stick with Math-U-See so your student understands the principles of math. Math-U-See is designed as a tutoring program and as such is mainly used in one-on-one and small group settings. It works, bottom line. We borrowed a DVD Beta from a friend and went through one lesson that seemed to help tremendously! So then we did the Saxon placement, and she tested level one. I have done all the legwork for you. Unlike most other courses, our pre-algebra course, DIVE/Saxon Math 8/7, does an excellent job of developing fluency in these skills. For instance, when it teaches multiplication, it begins introducing geometry concepts such as finding the area of a rectangle; when teaching decimals, there is a strong focus on money; and while they are learning fractions, measurement is covered … I will say that Saxon K is super easy for kindergarten, but Saxon 1 starts out easy, but gets hard . What worked & what we really wanted to work but just didn’t…pros, cons, hits, misses. Saxon Math: We started with Saxon 1st grade in Kindergarten for both Aidan and Gresham (I think that Saxon runs slightly behind). Time4Learning. These drills can be completed along with Shormann Algebra 1. My oldest DD began MathUSee in Gamma. I have looked at other textbooks. I was IN, 100%. I'm interested to read everyone's thoughts too! Math-U-See is an explicit, structured, systematic, and cumulative program using multi-sensory teaching techniques. Explore More We'll just have to see how that goes. too hard to Kindergarten in my opinion. When we started homeschooling, the one thing my kids asked was that we not use Saxon Math curriculum. If you want a conceptual approach that is amazing go with Saxon. Where can I find the Saxon placement tests? The greatest advantage of  Math-U-See is that it's concepts are more easily applied to life and therefore much easier to grasp. Math-U-See is a core curriculum for students in kindergarten through 12th grade. The Curriculum Choice Our Home on the Range. Saxon math is the only one I know of other than a college algebra textbook that makes you do 30 problems per problem set. We have used Singapore Math and Saxon primarily up until now. She did pretty well but the only thing that was hard to grasp was that in MUS you begin learning place value in Primer. The repetition was a good thing for him. The music and manipulatives are great for children who struggle focusing on school and learning math concepts. 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